DE Book 19, Chapter 29

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Book 19, Empyrean God, Chapter 29 – Meeting the Elder God

Even though they were hundreds of kilometers apart, Ji Ning’s clone could still see the distant form of the utterly emaciated wild dog lying on the ground. He immediately grew even more courteous and respectful. His heartforce had shown him how formidable this seemingly-unremarkable wild dog was. It had been able to devour even the invisible, formless power of heartforce; how could Ning possibly be a match for it?

“Senior, this junior is the newly-arrived Overseer. There’s something I would ask of you, senior,” Ning’s clone said.

Sniff. Sniff. The wild dog’s nostrils flared a few times, and then its eyes opened, revealing a pair of ancient-looking dark-yellow pupils. It opened its mouth.

Rumble…

Everything within a thousand kilometers began to change.

The platter which Ning’s clone was holding actually flew into the air and towards that mouth. The fine wine and delicacies on the platter flew with especial speed!

“Eh?” Ning’s clone was completely unable to resist this power. “What a formidable divine ability.”

As the wine and food reached the wild dog’s mouth, they began to shrink in size, then flew straight into it. Even Ning’s clone was about to be sucked in!

“Senior! Senior!” Ning’s clone called out repeatedly, but the wild dog completely ignored him.

Whoosh.

Ning’s clone could sense that he was shrinking in size, while the wild dog before him was growing larger and larger, seemingly as large as the heavens themselves. It flew helplessly into the mouth of the wild dog, then dispersed.

Outside the formation.

“Thank goodness I only sent a clone; all I lost was a bit of my divine power.” Ning stood outside the formation, calling out, “Senior, there’s something I need to ask of you.”

But the wild dog, a few hundred kilometers away, just continued to lie there as though he was asleep.

“And of course, if there is anything you need, senior, I’ll do my best to satisfy you,” Ning said.

“Lucky kid, are you able to release me? Let me out of here?” Finally, an ancient voice rang out by Ning’s ears. The eyelids of the distant wild dog lifted upwards as he glanced at Ning.

“Uh…” Ning immediately asked, “Might I ask, what do I need to do to release you?”

“There are two methods,” the ancient voice said. “The first method is to have an Elder God or an Ancestral Immortal with a talisman of command from the King of Pangaea come here, then activate the talisman to unlock the prison chains. At that point, you as the Overseer can bring me out of this prisonworld, and I will regain my freedom. The second method is to have a mighty individual who has reached the World-level to forcibly shatter these shackles.”

“World-level?” Ning was stunned. “What’s the ‘World-level’?”

The wild dog glanced at Ning, a hint of disappointment in its eyes. Still, it answered Ning’s question. “They are the ones who have ascended beyond the Elder Gods and Ancestral Immortals. You look as though you live in a chaosworld. You should have heard rumors that your chaosworld was originally formed from the primordial chaos by a mighty Fiendgod, yes?”

“Yes.” Ning nodded.

“Those who are capable of creating a chaosworld are at the World-level of power. However, those Fiendgods who are born from the primordial chaos at the World-level will all perish upon creating their chaosworld. They were born for the sole purpose of establishing a world, and there is no way for them to continue living afterwards. As for other Gods or Immortals who manage to train to the World-level after countless years and experiences, they are even more powerful than those Fiendgods who were born at the World-level. Those individuals are capable of destroying these shackles outright. In fact, given enough time, they are even capable of destroying this entire prisonworld.”

Ning now understood.

Pangu!

The World-level was Pangu’s level! Mother Nuwa had reached Pangu’s level as well. No wonder Mother Nuwa had been able to effortlessly dominate the Lord of All Things as soon as she broke through to Pangu’s level! The Lord of All Things had been powerful, and the Seamless Chaosworld had been quite formidable, but Mother Nuwa had immediately slaughtered the Lord of All Things, then frightened the Lord of the Demonheart into merging himself into the Heavenly Daos. As for the Lord of All Fiends, his escaping abilities were quite impressive; he had been able to escape while bringing along many of the shattered remnants of the Seamless Gate’s forces. They had hidden themselves in the primordial chaos, not daring to return until Mother Nuwa left the Three Realms.

Once anyone reached her level, they would be able to effortlessly dominate all comers. The difference in power was like the difference between Heaven and Earth.

“So above the Elder God and Ancestral Immortals are the World-class experts? Then what level has the King of Pangaea reached?” Ning asked.

“He’s also a World-class expert.” The wild dog looked towards Ning. “However, he’s an extremely powerful World-class expert. The Pangaea chaos-kingdom has a total of three World-class experts, which is why it is so powerful. You must understand that it is very, very rare for a chaosworld to give birth to even a single World-class expert.”

Ning nodded.

The Seamless Chaosworld, for instance, hadn’t produced a single one. As for the Pangu Chaosworld, only Mother Nuwa had reached that level. Apparently, this was a level of tremendous power, even within the endless primordial chaos.

“Your master, your elders…are any of the experts you know at the World-class?” The wild dog looked at Ning. “They can be World Gods of the Fiendgod path or Chaos Immortals of the Immortal cultivation path; so long as they have reached the World-class, they can forcibly break apart these shackles.”

“I know of one.” Ning nodded.

“Truly?” The wild dog’s eyes lit up with eagerness. Given his incredible level of power, he was completely capable of telling if Ning was telling the truth or not.

“However, I haven’t personally met this person yet.” Ning looked back at the wild dog.

“I can sense that you aren’t lying to me.” The wild dog’s attitude instantly became noticeably better. Previously, he had been rather indifferent towards Ning, because his experience was that it was incredibly rare for a World-class expert to appear within the primordial chaos. However…now that he knew that Ning’s side had a World-class expert behind it, and given that he himself knew that Ning’s side wasn’t an enemy…suddenly, he saw the light of hope.

Freedom.

He desperately craved it.

The many prisoners jailed here all craved their freedom.

“Senior, tell me more about these ‘World-class’ experts. My master has met that mighty individual before, but I have not. I know nothing about them. Please tell me a bit more, senior,” Ning said. And indeed, Subhuti had met Nuwa before. Ning was telling the truth.

“Your master met this person?” The wild dog’s attitude became even better. “Mm. The paths of cultivation are divided into three. The first path is the Fiendgod path. The primordial chaos will give birth to some living creatures that will title themselves ‘Gods’, and they will subconsciously choose to call their enemies ‘Fiends’. The Fiendgod cultivation path is generally created by these Fiendgods who were born from the primordial chaos, which is why it is named that.”

“The second path is the Ki Refining path, which allows ordinary commoners born from the mortal dust to constantly improve themselves and break through to higher levels.”

“Finally, there is the invisible, formless path of the heart.”

“These three paths are the three major paths of cultivation.”

“The Fiendgod path can be divided in the ‘mortal’, ‘Empyrean God’, ‘True God’, ‘Elder God’, and ‘World God’ levels. Supposedly, there are even higher levels of power in the primordial chaos, as well as figures who are even more powerful than the King of Pangaea. However, in my sixteen chaos cycles of life, I’ve never encountered such a powerful figure.”

“The Ki Refining path can be divided into the ‘mortal’, ‘Celestial Immortal’, ‘True Immortal’, ‘Ancestral Immortal’, and ‘Chaos Immortal’ levels.”

“As for the path of the heart…even I do not understand it.”

The wild dog continued, “The core of any Ki Refiner lies in the Jindan golden pellet within the body. This is their heart, which contains all of their ineffable might. At the World-class, however, the cultivator shall completely destroy the Jindan region, letting it return to the primordial chaos it sprang from. When that happens, a chaosworld will emerge within the Jindan.”

Ning was surprised. The region within the Jindan was extremely vast; all of Ning’s magic treasures were placed within it, as was his sea of Immortal energy. To destroy it all and let it return to the primordial chaos, then give birth to a chaosworld…?”

“When that happens, the Chaos Immortal shall have a chaosworld located inside his very body. Naturally, his power will be utterly indomitable,” the wild god said. “As for the ‘Daos’ which young fellows like you inside the chaosworld train in, these ‘Daos’ are nothing more than the rules by which the chaosworld operates. The ‘natural energy of Heaven and Earth’ which you cultivate is the energy of the chaosworld itself. All you are doing is temporarily borrowing it for your own use.”

“However, to reach the World-level, you’ll have to establish a chaosworld of your own, inside your body. Although the chaosworld within your Jindan wouldn’t be as vast as a real chaosworld in the outside world, you will be the ruler and absolute master of it. Naturally, your power will become enormous. It would be very easy for you to destroy an actual chaosworld.”

Ning nodded. Mother Nuwa did indeed have the power to destroy the Three Realms.

“Because Immortal cultivators at the World-level have established a world region of primordial chaos within their Jindans, they are known as Chaos Immortals.”

“As for Fiendgods, their path involves continually increasing the power of their divine bodies. With each improvement in their body, their power will increase greatly. World Gods possess almost limitless power, and they are capable of establishing chaosworlds of their own. Thus, they are referred to as World Gods.”

“These two paths are equal in power,” the wild dog said.

“Equal?” Ning was suddenly startled. “Senior, are you saying that Empyrean Gods and Celestial Immortals should be equals? True Gods and True Immortals should be equals? Elder Gods and Ancestral Immortals are equals?”

“Of course. Although these are two different paths of cultivation, the two paths are indeed equal in power.” The wild dog nodded.

Ning was stunned. How could the two paths be equal?

True Gods were clearly comparable in power to Daofathers, while Empyrean Gods were on the same level as True Immortals.

“The Ki Refining path is a path that has been slowly developed and tested over countless years, a path that allows ordinary mortals to cultivate and rise in power. Thus, there are many different methods of Ki Refining.” The wild dog stared at the distant Ning. “However, there are three primary methods through which a person can overcome the Celestial Tribulation and become a Celestial Immortal. These three different methods will result in Jindans of different qualities.”

“As for you…you’ve trained in the worst method.” The wild dog shook his head. “Your Jindan is incredibly puny. Even though you are now a ‘True Immortal’, powerful Empyrean Gods and Celestial Immortals are probably on par with you.”

“Right, right, right! Earlier, I fought against a Celestial Immortal in here. We were indeed on par with each other,” Ning immediately said.

The wild dog shook his head. “The Ki Refining path you people train in is too weak. If your world had a Chaos Immortal within it, things wouldn’t be this bad. I believe the person on your side who broke through to the World-level had to have made the breakthrough as a Fiendgod cultivator. This person must be a World God.”

Ning didn’t deny it. Nuwa had followed in Pangu’s path. She had indeed walked the Fiendgod path.

“There are three different paths for Ki Refiners. Breaking through to become a Celestial Immortal is the most important checkpoint in all of cultivation. The Jindan formed during the breakthrough will determine the power and potential the cultivator will have in the future,” the wild dog said. “The weakest type of Jindan is formed when the cultivator has to laboriously draw in the natural energy, condensing it into a Jindan.”

“A higher level method is to rely on many precious treasures in forming the Jindan, guiding the essence of those treasures to come together through your own personal power. These Jindans are much more powerful.”

“The best method of all is a method which imitates the birth of Fiendgods from the primordial chaos. The bodies of those Fiendgods are formed from the power of chaos itself. To create the most supreme of Celestial Immortal Jindans, you have to use an entire vast world as your furnace. This world needs to be extremely large, at least on par with this prisonworld. What you need to do is to summon all the limitless power of that vast world, then condense it into a Jindan. This is the best-possible Jindan, and it will contain tremendous power of incredible purity.”

“Of the three methods, the best method is to use the energy of an entire world in order to cultivate the Jindan. The second method is to rely on precious items to help you increase your power. The third method primarily relies on you relying on your own power to draw more in.”

“But of course, there are advantages and disadvantages to everything. The best method requires you to use an entire vast world as your furnace, which is only possible with the assistance of a Chaos Immortal. In addition, when undergoing your tribulation, the power of the Celestial Tribulation will be a bit more powerful than even an Empyrean Tribulation.” The wild dog looked at Ning. “In the Pangaea chaos-kingdom, only a very small percentage of the core members are capable of using the best method to produce a Jindan.”

“As for you…it’s too late. You are already a True Immortal. Your path is set. There’s no way to change it.” The wild dog shook his head.


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85 thoughts on “DE Book 19, Chapter 29” - NO SPOILERS and NO CURSING

    1. seems so since their worlds are just a plane of existences made out of the primordial chaos. Pretty damn sure this novel doesn’t have any connection to the others though, just a nice idea to think that this is what woulda happened after enough people started becoming masters of their own worlds.

      1. I’m not so sure, I thought so too until I remembered in CD there was a for-all-intents-and-purposes-infinite size chaotic space in which Sovereigns can make planes, right? And in ST Qin Yu did something similar (albeit on a much higher level) so it’s possible that this is just one of the other main Cosmos (or maybe another main Cosmos made post-ST since this could be quintillions of years later for all we know).
        It definitely might be unrelated to the others, but I could see this being in the same multiverse.

        1. Chapter 1, or 0, ji Ning used to be from modern day earth, thus st is set nominally in the future, and in an alternative dimension, based on the star temple. Cd connection to st n earth is hard to verify

    2. That would be the case if the Primordial Chaos was the same as the Grandmist, however, that would imply that people that have gained BASIC insights into the Dao of Primordial Chaos would be on par with you know who just before the end of the story when he killed the other guy and met the strongest guy ever (I don’t want to spoil more) . However, we know that multiple daofathers MASTERED this dao, and yet, they are unable to destroy a Chaosworld. This would mean that the Primordial Universe should be just one of the worlds originating from the Grandmist Universe, just like you know who’s universe did. And we also know that a certain power level in you know who’s universe was able to establish worlds of their own, and that universe was just one of four subuniverses of the main one, in which the strongest guys were much more powerful than the ones in that MC’s universe…. also, there was that sentence that beings in the main universe are capable of gainings insights into the laws of space and time, and guess what? Subhuti is such a person. To conclude, I believe that Primordial Universe of Desolate Era, if related to the other novels, was actually created by one of those guys in the Grandmist Universe

  1. This is an interesting turn actually considering we are used to MCs always defeat people of higher tiers of cultivation… here the three realms cultivation culture seems to be so pitiful he is actually worst than average guys of their tier in other worlds xD

      1. and it is generally a step in order to prepare the MC moving to new areas
        otherwise all enemies will be ancient old masters.
        MC need other young geniuses as rivals, so he moves on the next plane of existence, where he will become the strongest, thereafter the cycle continue

  2. “The Ki Refining path can be divided into the ‘mortal’, ‘Celestial Immorta’, ‘True Immortal’, ‘Ancestral Immortal’, and ‘Chaos Immortal’ levels.”
    Immorta –> Immortal

  3. Thanks for the chapter!!

    WOW for the first time in everything i have read this is the 1st one i saw that our fellow MC is indeed, literally, a frog in a well

    1. They usually almost always are frogs in a well.. they know sh*t outside their greater world.

      Only exception is if they are reincarnations of peerless experts…

      It was the same way in ATG, ISSTH, and most other stories…

  4. Look like some of ISSTH’s plot (as Meng Hao always discovered ancient method actually more powerful) rub off here or vice verse (maybe most of xianxia used this type of plot), current techs and skills are actually trashes in ancient time, Ki cultivators got the worse off in longer run, while Fiendgod body cultivators get better deals in long term.

  5. “Oh, technically…” What a cliffhanger! 😀

    I’m going to guess: “Oh, technically, if you were to lose all your dao’s you could start your immortal cultivation over again and do it right this time.”

    1. I don’t think it’ll just be that, since he’s already almost the same thing with his sword technique. I could imagine it being something like collapsing the Jindan, which has a high chance of death or something along those lines (although even that seems too easy considering how many bodies he has, at the same time I could easily see that happening because of how many bottles of Chaos Nectar he has and then when one succeeds he could off the rest of the clones after the war and remake them all with the upgraded Jindan).

      1. the extra bodys are all clones of his feindgod body the body he’s trying to upgrade is his ki refiner body which i thought was with his daughter but is weirdly in the prison now???? take your daughter to an otherworldly prison day?

        1. His fiendgod body also is a ki refiner (and pure yang true immortal). You are talking about his primaltwin (that is only a ki refiner at pure yang true immortal level).

          I think he needs to upgrade both the jidan of his “main” body (one of the 18, and the changes just propagates to the other 17) and his primaltwin`s.

  6. Welp, looks like Ning’s path is to walk down the same as Pangu and Nuwa. Also, this stuff about having a world inside them is very reminiscent of Stellar Transformations and Swallowed Star.
    Thanks for the chapter!

  7. I like the chapter, but IET is completely ignored the arcane art that makes him unkillable to all but the truly strong Dao father’s so he wasn’t even in danger when he fought the celestial immortal prisoner, but he acts like it almost killed him, we already know the celestial couldn’t have killed him since he couldn’t even destroy top grade pure yang swords and nines body is equal to a supreme pure yang treasure, not to mention immortal swords are more fragile in nature than other treasures.
    Also I’m curious if the referencing to him as a true immortal is another plot hole or if there will be reference to his fiend God cultivation another there’s no reason to think that that’s behind at all.

      1. Yeah, he’s a true immortal, but foremost he’s an Empyrean God. He’s completely on the correct cultivation level for a fiend God, he just is a weak Ki refiner. So he’said actually fine, he just had a wrong conception of the equality of the two forms.

    1. You’re forgetting that Daofathers are probably MUCH weaker than they should be too, so a Pure Yang True Immortal that used the best method would probably be able to slaughter him.

      His body was almost killed, which made him waste more of that Chaos Nectar, which takes so long to make that he probably won’t get any more during the war.

      Also, he’s a True Immortal, you’re thinking of True Gods.

      1. Pretty sure he still has the same amount of chaos nectar he only used most of one bottle. The clone that was destroyed was most likely made using a drop of his blood as we all know Fiendgods can create clones which don’t affect their cultivation if destroyed.

  8. ‘Celestial Immorta’ -> ‘Celestial Immortal’

    At the World-class, however, the cultivator shall completely destroy the Jindan region, letting it return to the primordial chaos it sprang from. When that happens, a chaosworld will emerge within the Jindan.
    So… are the Chaosworlds Cosmos’ then? But it seems WAY too common to be that, especially after ST. I guess it might be close to the Sovereign level in CD, where one can make a plane, but this is just a single one that one can make.

    “These two paths are equal in power,” the wild dog said.
    I guess I was right about the paths being equal, but judging by the Celestial Immortal last chapter I was wrong in that even Fiendgods in the Three Realms are far weaker than they could be.
    I wouldn’t be surprised if Ning either a) found a way to restart cultivation with another body or b) found a way to upgrade his Dantian. Either way, I could see him using the Primordial Ruinworld as the major world to make the first level Jindan.

    1. My running theory with this is that the 3 realms are what we call the milky way galaxy. So the seamless gate would be another galaxy that collided with ours.

      I think the biggest issue I have from desolate era is that Ji Ning never seems to use his knowledge from his previous life about the universe and how that compares with what immortal cultivators know about the universe. He never really states what portion of the universe is considered the three realms. If the 3 reals is the entire universe and other realms are in different dimensions (like in steller transformations) or if all other chaos realms are in fact galaxies inside 1 universe.

      1. Don’t do that… trying to shoehorn a cultivator universe into our own just doesn’t work. It’s totally illogical how the sizes of people, places and things are scaled. When Ji Ning is using the Heaven Punisher formation, he’s about 30,000 meters high… or a bit more than 3 times the height of Mount Everest. I’ll assume his fiendgod body is adapted to breath properly at altitudes like that, but normal people die above 8000 meters without breathing gear.

        The planets they are on are Jupiter sized for the most part, but a planet that big that was a terrestrial planet instead of a gas giant would probably have VERY high gravity.

        All these planets also seem to share the same Sun and Moon… don’t ask me how they are all supposed to get the same amount of light from both in order for them all to be in the habitable range. (not so much the moon as the sun but… it does matter.)

        1. For the latter, at least, IET explained in a chapter that the ‘sun’ and ‘moon’ that most worlds saw were actually just astral projections of the Solar Star and Lunar Star.

          1. Ok, I’ll ignore those references in the future! 😀

            I’m just going to assume that all habitable worlds have a suitable sun at least… even if it doesn’t seem to be as important as an astral projection. 😀

        2. I know its not realistic to try and use real world logic with xainxia logic. However since the MC is originally from Earth one of the ‘trillion minor worlds’ somewhere around here is earth.

          On the side note of the size of the major world being the size of Jupiter. I have to believe The size they end up talking about for the grand xia was big enough to have multiple Jupiters inside it. Back when Ning attacks the youngflame commandary its said the mountain range he is attacking has a surface area bigger then 4 or 5 earths by itself.

        3. Don’t try to understand things when you don’t know the dao! In these planets and realms are within the dao of gravity and the dao of air pressure. These worlds are much more rich with energy and those daos have different influences.

    1. Nah, pretty sure he’ll get it a long time from now (the war would be too easy if he immediately reached the level of a strong Daofather) although I could see him using the Primordial Ruinworld to make that Jindan.

  9. Holy… okay, this is a series of revelations and developments I absolutely did NOT see coming. At all.

    I’m quite shocked and happily surprised by DE so far, it’s far deeper than I’d imagined.

  10. Thanks for the chapter!

    I’m calling it now the big third path of the heart is just some revelation that all the “forces” like “Heartforce” and “Swordforce” are actually all the same and that he learns how to apply the “force” of stuff to whatever he is doing.

  11. “As for you…it’s too late. You are already a True Immortal. Your path is set. There’s no way to change it.” The wild dog shook his head.

    Isn’t this his true body? Why did wild dog called him True Immortal isn’t that his primal twin?

      1. How come? I admit to also being confused.

        They split training paths well before their respective tribulations, exactly because you can’t train both paths in the same body, as far as I understood it.

        At this point, His true body is an empyrean god, and his twin is a true immortal.

        His empyrean god body sent a clone in the prison that was then eaten by the elder god.
        And the Elder God was able to determine that he’s also a true immortal? or that he trains in both path? Do not remember reading that his true body is both anywhere.

        1. Way back in the first book Ji Ning starter his training as a dual refiner. His true body trains as a fiendgod and an immortal ki refiner.

          He forcefully kept himself from absorbing immortal ki or divine power in his real body until he reached a high enough level of insight to pass his tribulation, which simultaneously, was a tribulation for his true body as both fiendgod and immortal ki. When he passed his tribulation, since he already had mastered a grand doa he became both an empyrean god and a pure yang true immortal.

          The reason they are all calling him a weak true immortal and not a fiendgod, is because his highest class in his true body as a pure yang true immortal, but its a pitifully weak true immortal.

          1. But wasn’t it said that when he split his soul in 2 he DID separate the ki refiner cultivation path from his true body? making his true body only a fiendgod body refiner?

        2. Ji Ning is a dual refiner, the problem is you’re badly misunderstanding what a primal twin is.

          A primal twin is a brand new Zifu created by using a precious treasure, then the user’s SOUL gets split in half, and half is used to create the primal twin while half is kept for the original body. It takes some time afterwards to recover the soul to full strength, and the twin can ONLY be a Ki refiner and not a fiendgod body trainer, while the original body can be both.

          It does NOT cause the Ki refiner aspect of a dual trainer to split off and become a separate entity. Not at all. Somebody who is only a Ki refiner can still gain a primal twin, it’s just that both the original and twin bodies will be just Ki refiners.

        3. Ok so his true body is both a Ki Refiner and Fiendgod refiner. However Primaltwins can only be Ki Refiners. So Ning has his Primaltwin which is only a True Immortal and now also has 18 bodies aside from the Primaltwin. All 18 of these bodies are both True Immortals and Fiendgods. Now these 18 bodies being Fiendgods, can create weaker clones made up of divine power I am assuming the clone that was eaten was this type of clone as Ning isnt retarded enough to waste one of the 18 clones made from the Taowu 18 Fiendgods technique. So 19 bodies total one being the Primaltwin and 18 made using the Taowu 18 Fiendgod technique found on the stele.

          1. Yep. That’s it, 19 permanent bodies now and 1 is pure ki and other 18 are both fiendgod/ki, also yes Ji Ning used a clone made of divine power( I.e. temporary clone)

  12. “Your Jindan is incredibly puny!”… So am I the only one that thought that his jindan already dissolved to become part of the rest of his body whenever he made his fiend god breakthrough?? Unless the dog is referring to his primal twin, which wouldn’t make sense. Or are all the new clones at the same power not fiendgods and are just like his primal twin. Also couldn’t his primal twin also have a set of 18 clones stemming from him as well?

  13. I’m gonna put this one under xianxia logic and leave it at that! As a writer I would see no reason to let him upgrade to tier 1 since he is gonna get rid of it when he breaks through to the world level, but this is a xianxia so I can bet my mother’s hat that he is either gonna get the best or something even more legendary beyond all possible speculation just for the kicks of it! But it’s probably gonna come in a while, right now he has basically a small army of top tier empyrean gods and anything short of a daofather is already gonna be underwhelming, if he gets an upgrade in the short term no way it’s gonna be more than tier 2, lately there’s been an upgrade-fest, he has these 3600 beads, the 7 techniques, eighteen bodies, Fuju sword-techniques, if he gets to basically upgrade to the daofather level… he would become an army of daofathers(18), even if that were to happen it will take a while.

    1. Well, I’m pretty sure Chaos Immortals, when they cast their Jindan away and give birth to a chaosworld from which they draw power from, the size of the chaosworld and the power they gain is proportionate to the grade of the Jindan, so he would still be screwed in this respect.

      But let’s be honest here, IET will probably forget about this by the time that actually happens and the whole Jindan grade aspect of it will be moot.

      1. That isn’t necessarily so, it would be enough to say it doesn’t create a difference and it would not create any contradiction or hole somewhere while being perfectly believable, as I see it, it’s a coin toss on this regard since the only world level we know of are world gods. Either way we basically know that Ning is gonna get the best tier, somehow, somewhere down the line, or this wouldn’t be a xianxia xD.

    2. the upgrade fest is set up for the seamless gate to go bloodshot in the eyes when they kick 18 consecutive steel boards with how precious a resource chaos nectar is i doudt ning gets anything worse than the top tier jindan useing those bottles to temper his jindan should give him tier one status further leaving the seamless gate scratching there head when nings power starts to skip levels the only question now is does the dog take ning as a disciple an ji ning take the dog as his master?

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